macOS Sonoma redémarrage suite à une erreur, tous les jours

tib51

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Bonjour,

Je suis sous Sonoma 14.4.1 et depuis pas mal de temps, quasiment tous les jours, lorsque je viens sur mon ordi, je me rends compte que toutes les sessions sont fermées car l'ordi a redémarré, suite à une erreur.

J'ai un message d'erreur lorsque je me connecte m'indiquant que le Mac a du redémarrer suite à un soucis.

Je vous ai mis le contenu du rapport en dessous.

Est ce que quelqu'un peut me dire ce qui pose problème régulièrement ?

Merci d'avance.

Tib

panic(cpu 0 caller 0xfffffe0028a1ad70): "AppleT602XDPTXPort(lpdptx-phy0)::deactivateTimeoutOccurred(0x10000037d): deactivate() incomplete 10 seconds after displayRelease()! (check DCPEXT)\n" @AppleT8112DPTXPort.cpp:574
Debugger message: panic
Memory ID: 0x6
OS release type: User
OS version: 23E224
Kernel version: Darwin Kernel Version 23.4.0: Fri Mar 15 00:12:49 PDT 2024; root:xnu-10063.101.17~1/RELEASE_ARM64_T6020
Fileset Kernelcache UUID: A5DBC30112639C0125B0F8101083FBF5
Kernel UUID: D3BBDD1F-7813-3F26-9F94-41BAABDA6E33
Boot session UUID: CDAF9592-2EF0-45D6-9C92-BF2DEFF7ADC4
iBoot version: iBoot-10151.101.3
secure boot?: YES
roots installed: 0
Paniclog version: 14
KernelCache slide: 0x000000001f3e4000
KernelCache base: 0xfffffe00263e8000
Kernel slide: 0x000000001f3ec000
Kernel text base: 0xfffffe00263f0000
Kernel text exec slide: 0x000000002095c000
Kernel text exec base: 0xfffffe0027960000
mach_absolute_time: 0x1e7f2f0d66
Epoch Time: sec usec
Boot : 0x662e81e1 0x0007af12
Sleep : 0x662ea363 0x000c862a
Wake : 0x662ea3d1 0x000832c7
Calendar: 0x662ea40c 0x000262bf

Zone info:
Zone map: 0xfffffe10002c8000 - 0xfffffe30002c8000
. VM : 0xfffffe10002c8000 - 0xfffffe14ccf94000
. RO : 0xfffffe14ccf94000 - 0xfffffe166692c000
. GEN0 : 0xfffffe166692c000 - 0xfffffe1b335f8000
. GEN1 : 0xfffffe1b335f8000 - 0xfffffe20002c4000
. GEN2 : 0xfffffe20002c4000 - 0xfffffe24ccf90000
. GEN3 : 0xfffffe24ccf90000 - 0xfffffe2999c5c000
. DATA : 0xfffffe2999c5c000 - 0xfffffe30002c8000
Metadata: 0xfffffe3f847a4000 - 0xfffffe3f8c7a4000
Bitmaps : 0xfffffe3f8c7a4000 - 0xfffffe3f8f5a0000
Extra : 0 - 0

TPIDRx_ELy = {1: 0xfffffe24bea06fb0 0: 0x0000000000000000 0ro: 0x0000000000000000 }
CORE 0 PVH locks held: None
CORE 1 PVH locks held: None
CORE 2 PVH locks held: None
CORE 3 PVH locks held: None
CORE 4 PVH locks held: None
CORE 5 PVH locks held: None
CORE 6 PVH locks held: None
CORE 7 PVH locks held: None
CORE 8 PVH locks held: None
CORE 9 PVH locks held: None
CORE 0 is the one that panicked. Check the full backtrace for details.
CORE 1: PC=0xfffffe00279f19f4, LR=0xfffffe00279f19f4, FP=0xfffffe49bba4bef0
CORE 2: PC=0xfffffe00279f19f4, LR=0xfffffe00279f19f4, FP=0xfffffe49bc05fef0
CORE 3: PC=0xfffffe0027b065f8, LR=0xfffffe0027b065f4, FP=0xfffffe49bbc53e80
CORE 4: PC=0xfffffe00279f19f4, LR=0xfffffe00279f19f4, FP=0xfffffe49ba47fef0
CORE 5: PC=0xfffffe00279f19f8, LR=0xfffffe00279f19f4, FP=0xfffffe49bbfabef0
CORE 6: PC=0xfffffe00279f19f8, LR=0xfffffe00279f19f4, FP=0xfffffe49bbf03ef0
CORE 7: PC=0xfffffe00279f19f8, LR=0xfffffe00279f19f4, FP=0xfffffe49bbd8bef0
CORE 8: PC=0xfffffe00279f19f4, LR=0xfffffe00279f19f4, FP=0xfffffe49bbd13ef0
CORE 9: PC=0xfffffe00279f19f8, LR=0xfffffe00279f19f4, FP=0xfffffe49bb817ef0
Compressor Info: 0% of compressed pages limit (OK) and 0% of segments limit (OK) with 0 swapfiles and OK swap space
Panicked task 0xfffffe2999be2608: 0 pages, 588 threads: pid 0: kernel_task
Panicked thread: 0xfffffe24bea06fb0, backtrace: 0xfffffe49ba077790, tid: 102573
lr: 0xfffffe00279b71c0 fp: 0xfffffe49ba077820
lr: 0xfffffe0027b02a4c fp: 0xfffffe49ba077890
lr: 0xfffffe0027b00f18 fp: 0xfffffe49ba077960
lr: 0xfffffe00279678cc fp: 0xfffffe49ba077970
lr: 0xfffffe00279b6ab4 fp: 0xfffffe49ba077d20
lr: 0xfffffe00281bd75c fp: 0xfffffe49ba077d40
lr: 0xfffffe0028a1ad70 fp: 0xfffffe49ba077d90
lr: 0xfffffe00289f3a30 fp: 0xfffffe49ba077db0
lr: 0xfffffe00280c6738 fp: 0xfffffe49ba077df0
lr: 0xfffffe0027a16df4 fp: 0xfffffe49ba077e30
lr: 0xfffffe0027a17e28 fp: 0xfffffe49ba077f20
lr: 0xfffffe0027970be4 fp: 0x0000000000000000
Kernel Extensions in backtrace:
com.apple.driver.AppleDisplayCrossbar(1.0)[B1076271-6CA7-3690-9DAF-C2260BBC3B00]@0xfffffe00289e9270->0xfffffe0028a1b71b
dependency: com.apple.driver.AppleARMPlatform(1.0.2)[77007C6A-68DD-3EA2-A25E-B47ACC1DAFE2]@0xfffffe002835e8b0->0xfffffe00283b1eab
dependency: com.apple.driver.AppleTypeCPhy(1)[0AF34138-286B-3CA8-8809-03DEA7DC57B7]@0xfffffe002949d590->0xfffffe00294b0cfb
dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOAVFamily(1.0.0)[2C001C0D-A9A2-35C0-8F80-67F42D2B5A8F]@0xfffffe0029b49630->0xfffffe0029bd349f
dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOAccessoryManager(1.0.0)[6115E9E4-5EDE-3783-AC11-42663B7CC8A2]@0xfffffe0029bd34a0->0xfffffe0029cde67f
dependency: com.apple.iokit.IODisplayPortFamily(1.0.0)[145956EE-4BD4-3F79-8CEF-7052B8ECEF01]@0xfffffe0029d9ee30->0xfffffe0029df4d77
dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOPortFamily(1.0)[8D098028-5FF6-3A15-85F0-047140663315]@0xfffffe002a159b40->0xfffffe002a159bc3
dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOThunderboltFamily(9.3.3)[A7065992-B1FF-37B2-84A0-46E8226759E1]@0xfffffe002a25cc30->0xfffffe002a3a7893

last started kext at 42385085008: com.apple.nke.webcontentfilter 5 (addr 0xfffffe0026e593b0, size 6264)
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Bonjour,
Ça a l’air d’être un problème assez répandu (voir ici)
Le problème ne semble pas complètement cerné ; des solutions semblent fonctionner pour certains (passer le(s) moniteur(s) en 60hz, utiliser des résolutions « par defaut », désactiver la mise en veille…)
 
Hello,

La première chose à faire c'est du ménage dans les applications au démarrage du mac et qui tournent en fond de tâches en permanence.
 
Bonjour,

J'ai le même problème plusieurs fois par jour. Ceci est apparu suite à la mise à jour Sonoma 14.4.1. J'utilise un Mac mini connecté à un HP243m

La réinstallation de Sonoma m'a libéré du problème pendant 24 heures...

Si cela peut aider, dans mon rapport de diagnostic, j'obtiens ce message :

panic (cpu 0 caller 0xfffffe001527ace0) : "AppleT8112DPTXPort(dptx-phy)::deactivateTimeoutOccurred(0x100000334) : deactivate() incomplet 10 secondes après displayRelease() ! (vérifiez DCPEXT)\n" u/AppleT8112DPTXPort.cpp:574

Je vous encourage à choisir l'option Signaler à Apple (et pas Ignorer) sur la fenêtre de diagnostic qui s'ouvre afin qu'un maximum de gens rapporte le problème et qu'une solution soit trouvée.
 
Bonjour,
Merci pour vos premières réponses, en ce qui me concerne, je n'aperçois du problème lorsque j'ai besoin de l'ordi, et que je le réveille (je ne l'éteins jamais, sauf lorsque je pars longtemps), et je me rends compte que les sessions sont fermées et que j'ai le message d'erreur en me loguant sur ma session.
Mon Mac mini est branché en HDMI sur un écran externe iiyama 2483h.
Le problème ne se présente jamais lorsque j'utilise l'ordi, c'est systématique en le réveillant qu'on se rend compte qu'il a rebooté depuis la dernière utilisation.
 
Pour la solution proposée, mon écran est déjà en 60Hz. Par rapport au lien GitHub, je n'ai pas betterdisplay sur mon ordi.
 
Idem Tib51.

En parcourant d'autres forum, j'ai essayé comme certains d'empêcher la mise en veille dans les parametres et cela semble fonctionner depuis quelques heures.
 
La réinstallation de Sonoma m'a libéré du problème pendant 24 heures...
Typiquement, 24h après une réinstallation, c'est qu'il y a un logiciel qui a été réinstallé dans l'intervalle et qui fait planter la machine.

Si le système fonctionne sans aucun logiciel installé à la sortie d'une installation propre, c'est qu'il y a un problème avec un logiciel tiers.