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saraslg · 26 Avril 2020

Est ce que cela posera problème pour l'utilisation de mes applications ?

Membre supprimé 1060554 · 26 Avril 2020

Les caches sont des raccourcis permettant un fonctionnement plus rapide des applications.

- on peut explorer plus finement le dossier Caches pour voir s'il n'y a pas d'anomalies - si tu veux. Ce qui m'étonne est la taille imposante du dossier Applications (37 Gi = 40 Go).

saraslg · 26 Avril 2020

Oui je veux bien si cela ne vous dérange pas.
En raison de mon travail j'ai l'habitude de travailler avec de nombreux logiciels (illustrator, photoshop, after effect...) donc je ne voudrais pas supprimer malencontreusement certains outils

etienne-8control · 27 Avril 2020

Hello !

J'ai essayé de trouver une solution à mon soucis ... sans résultat aussi je viens vous demander de l'aide

Mon OS fait 188Go ce qui me parait démesurément trop !!

Voici ce que me donnent les quelques commandes standard trouvées ici et là sur le forum.

Pouvez-vous m'éclairer ? Je vois beaucoup de "warning : orphan directory record" et aussi un "fsroot tree is invalid" inquiétant

Merci de votre aide !!

Bash:

# diskutill list
/dev/disk0 (internal):
   #:                       TYPE NAME                    SIZE       IDENTIFIER
   0:      GUID_partition_scheme                         500.3 GB   disk0
   1:                        EFI EFI                     314.6 MB   disk0s1
   2:                 Apple_APFS Container disk1         500.0 GB   disk0s2

/dev/disk1 (synthesized):
   #:                       TYPE NAME                    SIZE       IDENTIFIER
   0:      APFS Container Scheme -                      +500.0 GB   disk1
                                 Physical Store disk0s2
   1:                APFS Volume Macintosh HD            466.7 GB   disk1s1
   2:                APFS Volume Preboot                 48.8 MB    disk1s2
   3:                APFS Volume Recovery                510.4 MB   disk1s3
   4:                APFS Volume VM                      1.1 GB     disk1s4

Bloc de code:

# df
Filesystem    512-blocks      Used Available Capacity iused               ifree %iused  Mounted on
/dev/disk1s1   976490568 911564456  61421328    94% 2022429 9223372036852753378    0%   /
devfs                382       382         0   100%     662                   0  100%   /dev
map -hosts             0         0         0   100%       0                   0  100%   /net
map auto_home          0         0         0   100%       0                   0  100%   /home
/dev/disk1s4   976490568   2097240  61421328     4%       1 9223372036854775806    0%   /Volumes/VM

etienne-8control · 27 Avril 2020

Bloc de code:

# find -x / -d 1 -regex '.*[^\.\].*' -exec sudo du -shx {} +
find: /usr/sbin/authserver: Permission denied
find: /.Spotlight-V100: Operation not permitted
find: /.PKInstallSandboxManager-SystemSoftware: Permission denied
find: /Library/Application Support/Apple/ParentalControls/Users: Permission denied
find: /Library/Application Support/Apple/AssetCache/Data: Permission denied
find: /Library/Application Support/ApplePushService: Permission denied
find: /Library/Application Support/com.apple.TCC: Operation not permitted
find: /Library/StagedExtensions/Users/etiennedumas/Library/Application Support/EaseUS/EaseUSDriver.kext: Permission denied
find: /Library/RMC/CA: Permission denied
find: /Library/SystemMigration/History/Migration-2EAD405F-E14A-404B-ADE2-28653FF6E636/QuarantineRoot/private/var/db/datadetectors: Permission denied
find: /Library/Caches/com.apple.iconservices.store: Permission denied
find: /.Trashes: Permission denied
find: /System/Library/DirectoryServices/DefaultLocalDB/Default: Permission denied
find: /System/Library/User Template: Permission denied
find: /System/Library/Caches/com.apple.receiptInstaller: Permission denied
find: /System/Library/Caches/com.apple.coresymbolicationd: Permission denied
find: /.fseventsd: Permission denied
find: /private/etc/cups/certs: Permission denied
find: /private/var/networkd/Library: Permission denied
find: /private/var/install: Permission denied
find: /private/var/ma: Permission denied
find: /private/var/spool/mqueue: Permission denied
find: /private/var/spool/postfix/saved: Permission denied
find: /private/var/spool/postfix/trace: Permission denied
find: /private/var/spool/postfix/defer: Permission denied
find: /private/var/spool/postfix/flush: Permission denied
find: /private/var/spool/postfix/deferred: Permission denied
find: /private/var/spool/postfix/corrupt: Permission denied
find: /private/var/spool/postfix/public: Permission denied
find: /private/var/spool/postfix/private: Permission denied
find: /private/var/spool/postfix/incoming: Permission denied
find: /private/var/spool/postfix/active: Permission denied
find: /private/var/spool/postfix/maildrop: Permission denied
find: /private/var/spool/postfix/hold: Permission denied
find: /private/var/spool/postfix/bounce: Permission denied
find: /private/var/spool/cups: Permission denied
find: /private/var/jabberd: Permission denied
find: /private/var/audit: Permission denied
find: /private/var/root: Permission denied
find: /private/var/lib/postfix: Permission denied
find: /private/var/db/Spotlight: Permission denied
find: /private/var/db/locationd: Permission denied
find: /private/var/db/analyticsd: Permission denied
find: /private/var/db/nsurlsessiond: Permission denied
find: /private/var/db/softwareupdate/Library/WebKit: Permission denied
find: /private/var/db/fpsd: Permission denied
find: /private/var/db/hidd: Permission denied
find: /private/var/db/geod: Permission denied
find: /private/var/db/reportmemoryexception: Permission denied
find: /private/var/db/lockdown: Permission denied
find: /private/var/db/datadetectors: Permission denied
find: /private/var/db/cmiodalassistants: Permission denied
find: /private/var/db/com.apple.xpc.roleaccountd.staging: Permission denied
find: /private/var/db/dslocal/nodes: Operation not permitted
find: /private/var/db/sudo: Permission denied
find: /private/var/db/Accessibility/C09DE7FE-F563-49DA-A36A-745D2FCF871C: Permission denied
find: /private/var/db/dhcpclient: Permission denied
find: /private/var/db/timed: Permission denied
find: /private/var/db/applepay: Permission denied
find: /private/var/db/securityagent: Permission denied
find: /private/var/db/TokenCache: Permission denied
find: /private/var/db/ConfigurationProfiles/Setup: Permission denied
find: /private/var/db/ConfigurationProfiles/Store: Operation not permitted
find: /private/var/db/caches/opendirectory: Permission denied
find: /private/var/at/tabs: Permission denied
find: /private/var/at/tmp: Permission denied
find: /private/var/folders/zz/zyxvpxvq6csfxvn_n00000b000002r/T: Permission denied
find: /private/var/folders/zz/zyxvpxvq6csfxvn_n00000b000002r/C: Permission denied
find: /private/var/folders/zz/zyxvpxvq6csfxvn_n000010r000086/T: Permission denied
find: /private/var/folders/zz/zyxvpxvq6csfxvn_n000010r000086/C: Permission denied
find: /private/var/folders/zz/zyxvpxvq6csfxvn_n00000sm00006d/0: Operation not permitted
find: /private/var/folders/zz/zyxvpxvq6csfxvn_n00000sm00006d/T: Permission denied
find: /private/var/folders/zz/zyxvpxvq6csfxvn_n00000sm00006d/C: Operation not permitted
find: /private/var/folders/zz/zyxvpxvq6csfxvn_n000011m00008d/T: Permission denied
find: /private/var/folders/zz/zyxvpxvq6csfxvn_n000011m00008d/C: Permission denied
find: /private/var/folders/zz/zyxvpxvq6csfxvn_n00000b400002s/T: Permission denied
find: /private/var/folders/zz/zyxvpxvq6csfxvn_n00000b400002s/C: Permission denied
find: /private/var/folders/zz/zyxvpxvq6csfxvn_n00000c4000031/T: Permission denied
find: /private/var/folders/zz/zyxvpxvq6csfxvn_n00000c4000031/C: Permission denied
find: /private/var/folders/zz/zyxvpxvq6csfxvn_n000003000000r/T: Permission denied
find: /private/var/folders/zz/zyxvpxvq6csfxvn_n000003000000r/C: Permission denied
find: /private/var/folders/zz/zyxvpxvq6csfxvn_n00000s800006_/T: Permission denied
find: /private/var/folders/zz/zyxvpxvq6csfxvn_n00000s800006_/C: Permission denied
find: /private/var/folders/zz/zyxvpxvq6csfxvn_n0000084000021/T: Permission denied
find: /private/var/folders/zz/zyxvpxvq6csfxvn_n0000084000021/C: Permission denied
find: /private/var/folders/zz/zyxvpxvq6csfxvn_n000011800008_/T: Permission denied
find: /private/var/folders/zz/zyxvpxvq6csfxvn_n000011800008_/C: Permission denied
find: /private/var/folders/zz/zyxvpxvq6csfxvn_n000010w000087/T: Permission denied
find: /private/var/folders/zz/zyxvpxvq6csfxvn_n000010w000087/C: Permission denied
find: /private/var/folders/zz/zyxvpxvq6csfxvn_n00000y800007k/0/com.apple.nsurlsessiond: Operation not permitted
find: /private/var/folders/zz/zyxvpxvq6csfxvn_n00000y800007k/T: Permission denied
find: /private/var/folders/zz/zyxvpxvq6csfxvn_n00000y800007k/C: Permission denied
find: /private/var/folders/zz/zyxvpxvq6csfxvn_n0000108000082/T: Permission denied
find: /private/var/folders/zz/zyxvpxvq6csfxvn_n0000108000082/C: Permission denied
find: /private/var/folders/zz/zyxvpxvq6csfxvn_n0000114000089/T: Permission denied
find: /private/var/folders/zz/zyxvpxvq6csfxvn_n0000114000089/C: Permission denied
find: /private/var/folders/zz/zyxvpxvq6csfxvn_n00000z000007r/0/com.apple.notificationcenter: Permission denied
find: /private/var/folders/zz/zyxvpxvq6csfxvn_n00000z000007r/0/com.apple.pluginkit: Permission denied
find: /private/var/folders/zz/zyxvpxvq6csfxvn_n00000z000007r/T: Permission denied
find: /private/var/folders/zz/zyxvpxvq6csfxvn_n00000z000007r/C: Permission denied
find: /private/var/folders/zz/zyxvpxvq6csfxvn_n000006w00001q/T: Permission denied
find: /private/var/folders/zz/zyxvpxvq6csfxvn_n000006w00001q/C: Permission denied
find: /private/var/folders/zz/zyxvpxvq6csfxvn_n00000s0000068/T: Permission denied
find: /private/var/folders/zz/zyxvpxvq6csfxvn_n00000s0000068/C: Permission denied
find: /private/var/folders/zz/zyxvpxvq6csfxvn_n00000th00006m/T: Permission denied
find: /private/var/folders/zz/zyxvpxvq6csfxvn_n00000th00006m/C: Permission denied
find: /private/var/folders/zz/zyxvpxvq6csfxvn_n00000xc00007b/T: Permission denied
find: /private/var/folders/zz/zyxvpxvq6csfxvn_n00000xc00007b/C: Permission denied
find: /private/var/folders/zz/zyxvpxvq6csfxvn_n000010h000084/T: Permission denied
find: /private/var/folders/zz/zyxvpxvq6csfxvn_n000010h000084/C: Permission denied
find: /private/var/folders/zz/zyxvpxvq6csfxvn_n00000bh00002w/T: Permission denied
find: /private/var/folders/zz/zyxvpxvq6csfxvn_n00000bh00002w/C: Permission denied
find: /private/var/folders/zz/zyxvpxvq6csfxvn_n0000000000000/0/com.apple.revisiond/com.apple.revisiond.temp: Permission denied
find: /private/var/folders/zz/zyxvpxvq6csfxvn_n0000000000000/0/com.apple.Spotlight: Permission denied
find: /private/var/folders/zz/zyxvpxvq6csfxvn_n0000000000000/0/com.apple.pluginkit: Permission denied
find: /private/var/folders/zz/zyxvpxvq6csfxvn_n0000000000000/T: Permission denied
find: /private/var/folders/zz/zyxvpxvq6csfxvn_n0000000000000/C: Permission denied
find: /private/var/folders/gk/smx9db4s0m35rr8x4d4d_pxm000089/T: Permission denied
find: /private/var/folders/gk/smx9db4s0m35rr8x4d4d_pxm000089/C: Permission denied
find: /private/var/folders/r2/fygzqncd4xn8v_fjfkzlw73h0000gn/0/SafariFamily: Operation not permitted
find: /private/var/folders/r2/fygzqncd4xn8v_fjfkzlw73h0000gn/0/com.apple.progressd/ClassKit: Operation not permitted
find: /private/var/folders/r2/fygzqncd4xn8v_fjfkzlw73h0000gn/0/com.apple.Safari/SafariFamily: Operation not permitted
find: /private/var/folders/r2/fygzqncd4xn8v_fjfkzlw73h0000gn/0/com.apple.LaunchServices.dv: Operation not permitted
find: /private/var/folders/r2/fygzqncd4xn8v_fjfkzlw73h0000gn/0/com.apple.nsurlsessiond: Operation not permitted
find: /private/var/folders/r2/fygzqncd4xn8v_fjfkzlw73h0000gn/0/com.apple.routined: Operation not permitted
find: /private/var/folders/r2/fygzqncd4xn8v_fjfkzlw73h0000gn/C/com.apple.WebKit.WebContent.Sandbox: Operation not permitted
find: /private/var/folders/r2/fygzqncd4xn8v_fjfkzlw73h0000gn/C/com.apple.QuickLook.thumbnailcache: Operation not permitted
find: /private/var/folders/r2/fygzqncd4xn8v_fjfkzlw73h0000gn/C/com.apple.WebKit.Networking.Sandbox: Operation not permitted

etienne-8control · 27 Avril 2020

Bloc de code:

find: /private/var/run/mds: Permission denied
find: /private/var/backups: Permission denied
find: /private/var/agentx: Permission denied
find: /.DocumentRevisions-V100: Permission denied
find: /Users/etiennedumas/Library/Application Support/MobileSync: Operation not permitted
find: /Users/etiennedumas/Library/Application Support/CallHistoryTransactions: Operation not permitted
find: /Users/etiennedumas/Library/Application Support/com.apple.TCC: Operation not permitted
find: /Users/etiennedumas/Library/Application Support/EaseUS/EaseUSDriver.kext: Permission denied
find: /Users/etiennedumas/Library/Application Support/CallHistoryDB: Operation not permitted
find: /Users/etiennedumas/Library/IdentityServices: Operation not permitted
find: /Users/etiennedumas/Library/Messages: Operation not permitted
find: /Users/etiennedumas/Library/HomeKit: Operation not permitted
find: /Users/etiennedumas/Library/Mail: Operation not permitted
find: /Users/etiennedumas/Library/Safari: Operation not permitted
find: /Users/etiennedumas/Library/Suggestions: Operation not permitted
find: /Users/etiennedumas/Library/Containers/com.apple.VoiceMemos: Operation not permitted
find: /Users/etiennedumas/Library/Containers/com.apple.Home: Operation not permitted
find: /Users/etiennedumas/Library/Containers/com.apple.Safari: Operation not permitted
find: /Users/etiennedumas/Library/Containers/com.apple.iChat: Operation not permitted
find: /Users/etiennedumas/Library/Containers/com.apple.mail: Operation not permitted
find: /Users/etiennedumas/Library/Containers/com.apple.news: Operation not permitted
find: /Users/etiennedumas/Library/Containers/com.apple.stocks: Operation not permitted
find: /Users/etiennedumas/Library/PersonalizationPortrait: Operation not permitted
find: /Users/etiennedumas/Library/Metadata/CoreSpotlight: Operation not permitted
find: /Users/etiennedumas/Library/Metadata/com.apple.IntelligentSuggestions: Operation not permitted
find: /Users/etiennedumas/Library/Cookies: Operation not permitted
find: /Users/etiennedumas/Library/Caches/com.apple.safaridavclient: Operation not permitted
find: /Users/etiennedumas/Library/Caches/com.apple.HomeKit.configurations: Operation not permitted
find: /Users/etiennedumas/Library/Caches/CloudKit/com.apple.Safari: Operation not permitted
find: /Users/etiennedumas/Library/Caches/com.apple.Safari: Operation not permitted
find: /Users/etiennedumas/Library/Caches/com.apple.Safari.SafeBrowsing: Operation not permitted
find: /Users/Guest/Music: Permission denied
find: /Users/Guest/Pictures: Permission denied
find: /Users/Guest/Desktop: Permission denied
find: /Users/Guest/Library: Permission denied
find: /Users/Guest/Public/Drop Box: Permission denied
find: /Users/Guest/Movies: Permission denied
find: /Users/Guest/Documents: Permission denied
find: /Users/Guest/Downloads: Permission denied
Password:
  0B    /.HFS+ Private Directory Data
1,0K    /home
490M    /usr
du: /.Spotlight-V100: Operation not permitted
1,0K    /net
 12K    /.DS_Store
  0B    /.PKInstallSandboxManager
  0B    /.PKInstallSandboxManager-SystemSoftware
2,5M    /bin
  0B    /installer.failurerequests
  0B    /Network
1,1M    /sbin
  0B    /.file
  0B    /etc
  0B    /var
du: /Library/Application Support/com.apple.TCC: Operation not permitted
 71G    /Library
 12G    /.cleverfiles
  0B    /.Trashes
7,5G    /System
4,0K    /.OSInstallerMessages
1,0M    /.fseventsd
du: /private/var/db/fpsd/dvp: Operation not permitted
du: /private/var/db/dslocal/nodes: Operation not permitted
du: /private/var/db/ConfigurationProfiles/Store: Operation not permitted
du: /private/var/folders/zz/zyxvpxvq6csfxvn_n00000sm00006d/0: Operation not permitted
du: /private/var/folders/zz/zyxvpxvq6csfxvn_n00000sm00006d/C: Operation not permitted
du: /private/var/folders/zz/zyxvpxvq6csfxvn_n00000y800007k/0/com.apple.nsurlsessiond: Operation not permitted
du: /private/var/folders/r2/fygzqncd4xn8v_fjfkzlw73h0000gn/0/SafariFamily: Operation not permitted
du: /private/var/folders/r2/fygzqncd4xn8v_fjfkzlw73h0000gn/0/com.apple.progressd/ClassKit: Operation not permitted
du: /private/var/folders/r2/fygzqncd4xn8v_fjfkzlw73h0000gn/0/com.apple.Safari/SafariFamily: Operation not permitted
du: /private/var/folders/r2/fygzqncd4xn8v_fjfkzlw73h0000gn/0/com.apple.LaunchServices.dv: Operation not permitted
du: /private/var/folders/r2/fygzqncd4xn8v_fjfkzlw73h0000gn/0/com.apple.nsurlsessiond: Operation not permitted
du: /private/var/folders/r2/fygzqncd4xn8v_fjfkzlw73h0000gn/0/com.apple.routined: Operation not permitted
du: /private/var/folders/r2/fygzqncd4xn8v_fjfkzlw73h0000gn/C/com.apple.WebKit.WebContent.Sandbox: Operation not permitted
du: /private/var/folders/r2/fygzqncd4xn8v_fjfkzlw73h0000gn/C/com.apple.QuickLook.thumbnailcache: Operation not permitted
du: /private/var/folders/r2/fygzqncd4xn8v_fjfkzlw73h0000gn/C/com.apple.WebKit.Networking.Sandbox: Operation not permitted
8,5G    /private
6,1G    /.DocumentRevisions-V100
  0B    /.vol
du: /Users/etiennedumas/Library/Application Support/MobileSync: Operation not permitted
du: /Users/etiennedumas/Library/Application Support/CallHistoryTransactions: Operation not permitted
du: /Users/etiennedumas/Library/Application Support/com.apple.TCC: Operation not permitted
du: /Users/etiennedumas/Library/Application Support/CallHistoryDB: Operation not permitted
du: /Users/etiennedumas/Library/IdentityServices: Operation not permitted
du: /Users/etiennedumas/Library/Messages: Operation not permitted
du: /Users/etiennedumas/Library/HomeKit: Operation not permitted
du: /Users/etiennedumas/Library/Mail: Operation not permitted
du: /Users/etiennedumas/Library/Safari: Operation not permitted
du: /Users/etiennedumas/Library/Suggestions: Operation not permitted
du: /Users/etiennedumas/Library/Containers/com.apple.VoiceMemos: Operation not permitted
du: /Users/etiennedumas/Library/Containers/com.apple.Home: Operation not permitted
du: /Users/etiennedumas/Library/Containers/com.apple.Safari: Operation not permitted
du: /Users/etiennedumas/Library/Containers/com.apple.iChat: Operation not permitted
du: /Users/etiennedumas/Library/Containers/com.apple.mail: Operation not permitted
du: /Users/etiennedumas/Library/Containers/com.apple.news: Operation not permitted
du: /Users/etiennedumas/Library/Containers/com.apple.stocks: Operation not permitted
du: /Users/etiennedumas/Library/PersonalizationPortrait: Operation not permitted
du: /Users/etiennedumas/Library/Metadata/CoreSpotlight: Operation not permitted
du: /Users/etiennedumas/Library/Metadata/com.apple.IntelligentSuggestions: Operation not permitted
du: /Users/etiennedumas/Library/Cookies: Operation not permitted
du: /Users/etiennedumas/Library/Caches/com.apple.safaridavclient: Operation not permitted
du: /Users/etiennedumas/Library/Caches/com.apple.HomeKit.configurations: Operation not permitted
du: /Users/etiennedumas/Library/Caches/CloudKit/com.apple.Safari: Operation not permitted
du: /Users/etiennedumas/Library/Caches/com.apple.Safari: Operation not permitted
du: /Users/etiennedumas/Library/Caches/com.apple.Safari.SafeBrowsing: Operation not permitted
253G    /Users
 30G    /Applications
4,5K    /dev
 22M    /Volumes
  0B    /tmp
  0B    /.dbfseventsd
  0B    /cores
4,0K    /.MySCMServerInfo

Bloc de code:

# df -H /
Filesystem     Size   Used  Avail Capacity iused               ifree %iused  Mounted on
/dev/disk1s1   500G   467G    31G    94% 2022425 9223372036852753382    0%   /

Membre supprimé 1060554 · 27 Avril 2020

Passe la commande :

Bloc de code:

sudo du -sh ~/Lib*/Caches/*

qui mesure (en Gi) les contenus de Caches

Poste le retour.

Membre supprimé 1060554 · 27 Avril 2020

Bonjour Étienne

Les mentions d'« operation not permitted » sont dues à l'activation du SIP (protocole de sécurité). Résultat : tableau illlisible dans sa prolixité et partiellement faussé.

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Pour désactiver le SIP > redémarre > les 2 touches ⌘R (cmd R) tenues pressées de l'écran noir => à la  = démarrage sur l'OS de secours. Tu obtiens un écran affichant une fenêtre de 4 Utilitaires macOS. Va à la barre de menus supérieure de l'écran > Menu Utilitaires > sous-menu : Terminal.

Lance-le et passe la commande :

Bloc de code:

csrutil disable

qui désactive le SIP

Cela fait > quitte le Terminal > va à : Menu  > Disque de démarrage > sélectionne Macintosh HD > redémarre dessus.

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De retour dans ta session > repasse la commande (copier-coller) :

Bloc de code:

sudo find -x / -d 1 -regex '.*[^\.\].*' -exec sudo du -shx {} +

qui mesure (en Gi = gibibytes : base 2) les objets de 1er rang du volume de démarrage (fichiers ou dossiers / visibles ou cachés).

Poste le tableau obtenu (qui sera d'une concision lisible)..

saraslg · 27 Avril 2020

Voici le résultat

Bloc de code:

macbook-pro-de-sara:~ sara$ sudo du -sh ~/Lib*/Caches/*
Password:
 84K    /Users/sara/Library/Caches/$(CFBundleIdentifier)
 84K    /Users/sara/Library/Caches/89Q89O
 12G    /Users/sara/Library/Caches/Adobe
  0B    /Users/sara/Library/Caches/Adobe Camera Raw
 50M    /Users/sara/Library/Caches/Adobe Camera Raw 2
512M    /Users/sara/Library/Caches/Adobe InDesign
 84K    /Users/sara/Library/Caches/BalsamiqMockups3.EDE15CF69E11F7F7D45B5430C7D37CC6C3545E3C.1
459M    /Users/sara/Library/Caches/CSXS
  0B    /Users/sara/Library/Caches/ChromeAndFirefoxSetter
 11M    /Users/sara/Library/Caches/CloudKit
4,0K    /Users/sara/Library/Caches/FamilyCircle
 11M    /Users/sara/Library/Caches/GameKit
 20M    /Users/sara/Library/Caches/GeoServices
698M    /Users/sara/Library/Caches/Google
272K    /Users/sara/Library/Caches/ImageDebug
 84K    /Users/sara/Library/Caches/ImprovedSearch.slwf
120K    /Users/sara/Library/Caches/Linkury.SafariExtInstall
 84K    /Users/sara/Library/Caches/MacMorDaemon
160K    /Users/sara/Library/Caches/MacNor
 30M    /Users/sara/Library/Caches/MacPerformance
  0B    /Users/sara/Library/Caches/MaglevExpressTemp1564
  0B    /Users/sara/Library/Caches/MaglevExpressTemp1580
  0B    /Users/sara/Library/Caches/MaglevExpressTemp1785
  0B    /Users/sara/Library/Caches/MaglevExpressTemp1892
  0B    /Users/sara/Library/Caches/MaglevExpressTemp1896
  0B    /Users/sara/Library/Caches/MaglevExpressTemp2008
  0B    /Users/sara/Library/Caches/MaglevExpressTemp2990
  0B    /Users/sara/Library/Caches/MaglevExpressTemp3273
  0B    /Users/sara/Library/Caches/MaglevExpressTemp3991
  0B    /Users/sara/Library/Caches/MaglevExpressTemp4606
  0B    /Users/sara/Library/Caches/MaglevExpressTemp467
  0B    /Users/sara/Library/Caches/MaglevExpressTemp5313
  0B    /Users/sara/Library/Caches/MaglevExpressTemp6186
  0B    /Users/sara/Library/Caches/MaglevExpressTemp654
  0B    /Users/sara/Library/Caches/MaglevExpressTemp6553
  0B    /Users/sara/Library/Caches/MaglevExpressTemp865
  0B    /Users/sara/Library/Caches/MaglevExpressTemp9536
  0B    /Users/sara/Library/Caches/Maps
125M    /Users/sara/Library/Caches/Metadata
 32K    /Users/sara/Library/Caches/Microsoft
1,2M    /Users/sara/Library/Caches/PassKit
  0B    /Users/sara/Library/Caches/Photos_Cache.noindex
5,5M    /Users/sara/Library/Caches/QCCompositionRepository-com.apple.iTunes.cache
4,0K    /Users/sara/Library/Caches/QuickTime
  0B    /Users/sara/Library/Caches/SafariNotificationAgent
 16M    /Users/sara/Library/Caches/SystemExtr.SystemExtr
 84K    /Users/sara/Library/Caches/Technical
 21M    /Users/sara/Library/Caches/UtilityParze
  0B    /Users/sara/Library/Caches/VoiceTrigger
 84K    /Users/sara/Library/Caches/_updt
 84K    /Users/sara/Library/Caches/a_182FF2C3-0DFD-4D96-8646-96568E6A4CE7-1557-000000D4CAA24BD7
 84K    /Users/sara/Library/Caches/a_21D666AA-DE30-4A55-B899-76B6755DA16E-827-0000004845D3BA7E
 84K    /Users/sara/Library/Caches/a_4FB456C8-1F73-4DA4-9A7F-5352B7C79C62-525-00000048805FD040
 84K    /Users/sara/Library/Caches/a_5031AC88-2DF0-40B1-9519-5CEF0D4DC41C-3655-000032BD5A77A857
 84K    /Users/sara/Library/Caches/a_89DC7EA4-38E9-4E80-9328-C8FCBCB2F95A-489-00000048CFAC6F88
 84K    /Users/sara/Library/Caches/a_E321DB09-276B-4EE7-92D6-3061BE40BB89-467-000000489440842A
4,0K    /Users/sara/Library/Caches/bdv.plist
 84K    /Users/sara/Library/Caches/blady.fq
1,4M    /Users/sara/Library/Caches/com.Palaeoniscum.spurner
 84K    /Users/sara/Library/Caches/com.QSearch
 84K    /Users/sara/Library/Caches/com.adobe.AfterEffects
 84K    /Users/sara/Library/Caches/com.adobe.InDesign
 84K    /Users/sara/Library/Caches/com.adobe.Install
 84K    /Users/sara/Library/Caches/com.adobe.InstallAdobeFlashPlayer
 84K    /Users/sara/Library/Caches/com.adobe.PDApp
268K    /Users/sara/Library/Caches/com.adobe.Photoshop
 84K    /Users/sara/Library/Caches/com.adobe.PremierePro.14
 84K    /Users/sara/Library/Caches/com.adobe.PremierePro.CC13
1,6M    /Users/sara/Library/Caches/com.adobe.acc.AdobeDesktopService
 84K    /Users/sara/Library/Caches/com.adobe.aerendercore
 84K    /Users/sara/Library/Caches/com.adobe.ame.application.14
 84K    /Users/sara/Library/Caches/com.adobe.dreamweaver-18.1
 84K    /Users/sara/Library/Caches/com.adobe.flashplayer.installmanager
156K    /Users/sara/Library/Caches/com.adobe.headlights.LogTransport2App
276K    /Users/sara/Library/Caches/com.adobe.illustrator
 10M    /Users/sara/Library/Caches/com.adobe.lightroomCC
8,3M    /Users/sara/Library/Caches/com.adobe.xd
 84K    /Users/sara/Library/Caches/com.apple.AOSPushRelay
 84K    /Users/sara/Library/Caches/com.apple.AddressBookSourceSync
4,0K    /Users/sara/Library/Caches/com.apple.AppleMediaServices
  0B    /Users/sara/Library/Caches/com.apple.AssistantServices
 84K    /Users/sara/Library/Caches/com.apple.CaptiveNetworkAssistant
112K    /Users/sara/Library/Caches/com.apple.CommerceKit.TransactionService
8,0K    /Users/sara/Library/Caches/com.apple.DictionaryManager
4,0K    /Users/sara/Library/Caches/com.apple.DictionaryServices
 84K    /Users/sara/Library/Caches/com.apple.QuickLookDaemon
 25M    /Users/sara/Library/Caches/com.apple.Safari
  0B    /Users/sara/Library/Caches/com.apple.Safari.SafeBrowsing
  0B    /Users/sara/Library/Caches/com.apple.Safari.SearchHelper
8,0K    /Users/sara/Library/Caches/com.apple.ScreenSaver.Engine
636K    /Users/sara/Library/Caches/com.apple.SetupAssistant
 14M    /Users/sara/Library/Caches/com.apple.Spotlight
 84K    /Users/sara/Library/Caches/com.apple.SystemProfiler
  0B    /Users/sara/Library/Caches/com.apple.WeatherService
  0B    /Users/sara/Library/Caches/com.apple.XprotectFramework.AnalysisService
408K    /Users/sara/Library/Caches/com.apple.accountsd
208K    /Users/sara/Library/Caches/com.apple.akd
204K    /Users/sara/Library/Caches/com.apple.ap.adprivacyd
6,1M    /Users/sara/Library/Caches/com.apple.appstore
736K    /Users/sara/Library/Caches/com.apple.appstoreagent
104K    /Users/sara/Library/Caches/com.apple.assistant_service
  0B    /Users/sara/Library/Caches/com.apple.assistantd
 24K    /Users/sara/Library/Caches/com.apple.automator.actionCache-bundleLocations.plist
332K    /Users/sara/Library/Caches/com.apple.automator.actionCache-system-standardLocations.plist
 84K    /Users/sara/Library/Caches/com.apple.bird
 28K    /Users/sara/Library/Caches/com.apple.cache_delete
536K    /Users/sara/Library/Caches/com.apple.commerce
 84K    /Users/sara/Library/Caches/com.apple.coreservices.uiagent
 84K    /Users/sara/Library/Caches/com.apple.dashboard.client
 88K    /Users/sara/Library/Caches/com.apple.finder
 84K    /Users/sara/Library/Caches/com.apple.gamecenter
4,0K    /Users/sara/Library/Caches/com.apple.gamed
284M    /Users/sara/Library/Caches/com.apple.helpd
2,6M    /Users/sara/Library/Caches/com.apple.helpviewer
1,1M    /Users/sara/Library/Caches/com.apple.iBooksX
 84K    /Users/sara/Library/Caches/com.apple.iChat
 84K    /Users/sara/Library/Caches/com.apple.iCloudHelper
  0B    /Users/sara/Library/Caches/com.apple.iLifeMediaBrowser
 22M    /Users/sara/Library/Caches/com.apple.iTunes
 84K    /Users/sara/Library/Caches/com.apple.iWork.Pages
136K    /Users/sara/Library/Caches/com.apple.icloud.FMIPClientXPCService
160K    /Users/sara/Library/Caches/com.apple.icloud.fmfd
148K    /Users/sara/Library/Caches/com.apple.imfoundation.IMRemoteURLConnectionAgent
 84K    /Users/sara/Library/Caches/com.apple.installer
148K    /Users/sara/Library/Caches/com.apple.keyboardservicesd
 84K    /Users/sara/Library/Caches/com.apple.mail
6,0M    /Users/sara/Library/Caches/com.apple.metadata.SpotlightNetHelper
236K    /Users/sara/Library/Caches/com.apple.nbagent
 28K    /Users/sara/Library/Caches/com.apple.nsservicescache.plist
  0B    /Users/sara/Library/Caches/com.apple.nsurlsessiond
 28M    /Users/sara/Library/Caches/com.apple.parsecd
2,1M    /Users/sara/Library/Caches/com.apple.passd
 12K    /Users/sara/Library/Caches/com.apple.preferencepanes.cache
152K    /Users/sara/Library/Caches/com.apple.preferencepanes.searchindexcache
4,0K    /Users/sara/Library/Caches/com.apple.preferencepanes.usercache
 84K    /Users/sara/Library/Caches/com.apple.safaridavclient
 96K    /Users/sara/Library/Caches/com.apple.siri-distributed-evaluation
 12K    /Users/sara/Library/Caches/com.apple.siri.bundleservicecache.plist
 84K    /Users/sara/Library/Caches/com.apple.syncdefaultsd
1,8M    /Users/sara/Library/Caches/com.apple.systempreferences
236K    /Users/sara/Library/Caches/com.apple.touristd
516K    /Users/sara/Library/Caches/com.crashlytics.data
 84K    /Users/sara/Library/Caches/com.cube.cube
 84K    /Users/sara/Library/Caches/com.deezer.deezer-desktop
 28K    /Users/sara/Library/Caches/com.deezer.deezer-desktop.ShipIt
 84K    /Users/sara/Library/Caches/com.google.Chrome
 84K    /Users/sara/Library/Caches/com.google.Keystone
 84K    /Users/sara/Library/Caches/com.google.Keystone.Agent
 24M    /Users/sara/Library/Caches/com.google.SoftwareUpdate
 84K    /Users/sara/Library/Caches/com.imobie.MacClean
116K    /Users/sara/Library/Caches/com.installer
 84K    /Users/sara/Library/Caches/com.mackeeper.MacKeeper.Uninstaller
 84K    /Users/sara/Library/Caches/com.malwarebytes.mbam.frontend.agent
220K    /Users/sara/Library/Caches/com.malwarebytes.mbam.frontend.application
 84K    /Users/sara/Library/Caches/com.microsoft.Excel
 88K    /Users/sara/Library/Caches/com.microsoft.Powerpoint
 84K    /Users/sara/Library/Caches/com.microsoft.autoupdate.fba
 84K    /Users/sara/Library/Caches/com.microsoft.autoupdate2
 84K    /Users/sara/Library/Caches/com.microsoft.teams

saraslg · 27 Avril 2020

Suite du résultat

Bloc de code:

84K    /Users/sara/Library/Caches/com.operasoftware.Installer.Opera
732K    /Users/sara/Library/Caches/com.pcvark.Mac-File-Opener
  0B    /Users/sara/Library/Caches/com.plausiblelabs.crashreporter.data
 84K    /Users/sara/Library/Caches/com.spotify.installer
 92K    /Users/sara/Library/Caches/com.sublimetext.3
556K    /Users/sara/Library/Caches/com.techyutil.macautofixer
336K    /Users/sara/Library/Caches/com.techyutil.maftask
 84K    /Users/sara/Library/Caches/com.techyutil.maftaskreviser
 84K    /Users/sara/Library/Caches/com.techyutils.AppsFinder
 84K    /Users/sara/Library/Caches/com.techyutils.mfohlp
 84K    /Users/sara/Library/Caches/crashpad_handler
 84K    /Users/sara/Library/Caches/ctapp.ctapp
320K    /Users/sara/Library/Caches/de.appsolute.MAMP
108K    /Users/sara/Library/Caches/de.appsolute.mamppro
8,2M    /Users/sara/Library/Caches/electroceramic
4,0K    /Users/sara/Library/Caches/iCloudUserNotification
100K    /Users/sara/Library/Caches/io.branch.network.cache
 24K    /Users/sara/Library/Caches/io.fabric.sdk.mac.data
128K    /Users/sara/Library/Caches/knowledge-agent
  0B    /Users/sara/Library/Caches/macsearch
  0B    /Users/sara/Library/Caches/mbpluginhost
136K    /Users/sara/Library/Caches/mbuseragent
136K    /Users/sara/Library/Caches/org.derailer.Paparazzi
 84K    /Users/sara/Library/Caches/org.nn.updater
9,2M    /Users/sara/Library/Caches/osinstallersetupplaind
128K    /Users/sara/Library/Caches/rtcreportingd
 84K    /Users/sara/Library/Caches/searchinstaller
648K    /Users/sara/Library/Caches/storeaccountd
408K    /Users/sara/Library/Caches/storeassetd
728K    /Users/sara/Library/Caches/storedownloadd
 92K    /Users/sara/Library/Caches/storeinappd
 92K    /Users/sara/Library/Caches/utilityData.utilityData
 84K    /Users/sara/Library/Caches/vulcanizer_unerasing
 92K    /Users/sara/Library/Caches/xSf
macbook-pro-de-sara:~ sara$

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Membre supprimé 1060554 · 27 Avril 2020

C'est le dossier Adobe qui fait 12 Gi = 13 Go. Il doit contenir des caches de tes applications Adobe.

saraslg · 27 Avril 2020

Ces caches sont-ils nécessaires pour l'utilisation des logiciels Adobe ?

Membre supprimé 1060554 · 27 Avril 2020

Tu peux démasquer ta Bibliothèque de compte de la manière suivante -->

- passe la commande :

Bloc de code:

open ~

qui ouvre l'espace global de ton dossier de compte sara dans une fenêtre du Finder. Va alors à la barre supérieure de menus du Finder : Présentation > Afficher les options de présentation (en bas) => dans la palette qui s'affiche en parallèle coche l'option (en bas encore) : "Afficher le dossier Bibliothèque". Un nouveau dossier : Bibliothèque se trouve affiché par le Finder dans l'espace du dossier sara.

Entres-y > Caches > Adobe => pour voir à quoi correspondent les caches en question (n'utilisant pas de logiciel Adobe --> je ne peux pas me prononcer d'expérience sur l'effet de la suppression des caches. Qui se reconstituent normalement après suppression > mais pas avec la même taille au départ).

etienne-8control · 27 Avril 2020

Merci pour la réponse rapide !!

Et voici !

Bloc de code:

# sudo find -x / -d 1 -regex '.*[^\.\].*' -exec sudo du -shx {} +

  0B    /.HFS+ Private Directory Data
1,0K    /home
490M    /usr
818M    /.Spotlight-V100
1,0K    /net
 12K    /.DS_Store
  0B    /.PKInstallSandboxManager
  0B    /.PKInstallSandboxManager-SystemSoftware
2,5M    /bin
  0B    /installer.failurerequests
  0B    /Network
1,1M    /sbin
  0B    /.file
  0B    /etc
  0B    /var
 71G    /Library
 12G    /.cleverfiles
  0B    /.Trashes
7,8G    /System
4,0K    /.OSInstallerMessages
4,0K    /.fseventsd
7,7G    /private
6,1G    /.DocumentRevisions-V100
  0B    /.vol
302G    /Users
 30G    /Applications
4,5K    /dev
 22M    /Volumes
  0B    /tmp
  0B    /.dbfseventsd
  0B    /cores
4,0K    /.MySCMServerInfo

Membre supprimé 1060554 · 27 Avril 2020

Il y a 467 Go de blocs occupés pour le volume Macintosh HD. En regard > je comptabilise 438 Gi = 470 Go de fichiers catalogués. Une plutôt rare sous-allocation de blocs occupés.

Les fichiers peuvent se répartir ainsi -->

- fichiers dédiés à l'utilisateur : 302 Gi Users + 30 Gi Applications => 332 Gi = 356,5 Go

- fichiers du Système : le reste soit 470 Go - 356,5 Go = 113,5 Go

La taille du Système est hypertrophiée. Ce qui s'explique par ceci -->

Bloc de code:

71G    /Library
12G    /.cleverfiles
6,1G    /.DocumentRevisions-V100

12 Gi = 13 Go de fichiers dans un dossier invisible .cleverfiles (issu de Disk Drill)
6,1 Gi = 6,5 Go dans un dossier invisible .DocumentRevisions-V100
71 Gi = 76 Go (!) dans la Bibliothèque Générale de l'OS

Ce qui n'exclut pas que les 302 Gi = 324 Go de fichiers des Utilisateurs ne puissent aussi réserver des surprises.

- il va falloir à a fois apurer & enquêter.

etienne-8control · 27 Avril 2020

Merci pour ta réponse. Il n'y a donc rien de vraiment anormal à priori ?

J'ai supprimé Disk Drill il y a quelques temps, donc les 13 Go de fichiers dans le dossier invisible .cleverfiles peuvent être supprimés ? Et si oui comment procéder (le dossier étant invisible) ?

Pour quelle raison trouves-tu étonnant d'avoir 76 Go dans la bibliothèque de l'OS ?

saraslg · 27 Avril 2020

Super merci je vais regarder ce que contient le dossier et faire le tri.
Merci de votre aide,

Membre supprimé 1060554 · 27 Avril 2020

Passe les commandes (l'une après l'autre) :

Bloc de code:

sudo rm -rf /.cleverfiles
sudo rm -rf /.DocumentRevisions-V100

qui suppriment les 2 dossiers invisibles dispensables. Commandes muettes.

Passe ensuite la commande :

Bloc de code:

sudo du -sh /Lib*/*

qui mesure (en Gi) les sous-dossiers de la Bibliothèque Générale de l'OS

Poste le retour.

etienne-8control · 28 Avril 2020

Hello !!

Voici le retour apres les commandes effectuées

Bloc de code:

# sudo du -sh /Lib*/*
 52G    /Library/Application Support
8,4G    /Library/Arturia
7,2G    /Library/Audio
1,3M    /Library/Automator
417M    /Library/Caches
112K    /Library/Catacomb
  0B    /Library/ColorPickers
140K    /Library/ColorSync
  0B    /Library/Components
  0B    /Library/Compositions
  0B    /Library/Contextual Menu Items
  0B    /Library/CoreAnalytics
3,5M    /Library/CoreMediaIO
660M    /Library/Desktop Pictures
  0B    /Library/DirectoryServices
160M    /Library/Documentation
1,5M    /Library/DropboxHelperTools
4,7M    /Library/Extensions
  0B    /Library/Filesystems
124M    /Library/Fonts
 35M    /Library/Frameworks
  0B    /Library/GPUBundles
  0B    /Library/Graphics
 23M    /Library/Image Capture
  0B    /Library/Input Methods
 82M    /Library/Internet Plug-Ins
  0B    /Library/Java
  0B    /Library/Keyboard Layouts
8,9M    /Library/Keychains
 28K    /Library/LaunchAgents
 40K    /Library/LaunchDaemons
 60M    /Library/Logs
104K    /Library/MessageTracer
 36K    /Library/Messages
 92K    /Library/Modem Scripts
  0B    /Library/OpenDirectory
700K    /Library/PDF Services
316K    /Library/Perl
908K    /Library/PreferencePanes
8,2M    /Library/Preferences
183M    /Library/Printers
 43M    /Library/PrivilegedHelperTools
  0B    /Library/Python
 25M    /Library/QuickLook
 92K    /Library/QuickTime
624K    /Library/RMC
 44M    /Library/Receipts
960K    /Library/Ruby
  0B    /Library/Sandbox
 48K    /Library/Screen Savers
 76K    /Library/ScriptingAdditions
1,5M    /Library/Scripts
8,0K    /Library/Security
  0B    /Library/Speech
5,1M    /Library/Spotlight
4,9M    /Library/StagedExtensions
  0B    /Library/StartupItems
8,1M    /Library/SystemMigration
  0B    /Library/SystemProfiler
1,6G    /Library/Updates
 21M    /Library/User Pictures
  0B    /Library/Video
9,1M    /Library/WebServer
 32M    /Library/Widgets

Membre supprimé 1060554 · 28 Avril 2020

C'est là -->

Bloc de code:

 52G    /Library/Application Support

52 Gi = 56 Go dans Application Support

Passe la commande (copier-coller) :

Bloc de code:

sudo du -sh ~/Lib*/Ap*\Sup*/*

qui mesure (en Gi) les contenus de 1er rang de Application Support

Poste le retour.

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